LIBERTY WAREHOUSE NO 1 / STAR WAREHOUSE NO. 2

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LIBERTY WAREHOUSE NO 1 / STAR WAREHOUSE NO. 2

400-408
,
Durham
NC
Cross street: 
Built in
1930-1935
/ Demolished in
1999
Construction type: 
,
Neighborhood: 
Type: 

Comments

  • Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 - 4:25am

    I think the building looks well situated on the lot, but I agree that a senior center has little use for a large front yard. And said that it appears to be underutilized.

  • Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 - 4:26am

    or sad!

  • Submitted by Lynn on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 - 12:54pm

    I remember during the late 60's-early 70's that workers in the downtown area would rent monthly parking inside the warehouses. It was always a bit scary as a child to be in a car that was being parked there; the old wood floors creaked and moaned as the cars would slowly roll across. Of course, no parking for a month during auctions!

    What the pictures don't show, and I doubt can ever be recreated, is the SMELL that permeated downtown Durham during auction. It was definitely a love it!/hate it! experience -- some folks thought it was like perfume, and others found it nauseating. I'm pretty sure that, had I been a student at Durham High School during that time, I'd have been in the bathroom tossing my lunch on a daily basis during auction.

    In the early 60's, while in elementary school, our entire grade went on a field trip to Liggett & Myers to see how the cigarettes were made. At the end of the tour, each of us was given a carton of L&M cigarettes to "take home to your parents." Can you imagine? They handed out cartons (carton = 10 packs) to all of these 9- and 10-year-olds.

  • Submitted by Reynolds on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 - 1:20pm

    Yes, Lynn, the smell of all that tobacco was really something.

    I grew up in Winston and my mom, then a heavy smoker, loved the smell and I, a child, found it sickening.

    During my brief foray into cigarette addiction in my early-mid 20s, I suppose I grew to like the smell a bit more, but am glad as can be that I kicked that nasty habit.

    Still, is there a museum of smell anywhere? The aroma/stench of a "healthy" tobacco industry is a hard one to "get" if one has never been subjected to it.

  • Submitted by John Schelp on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 - 3:05pm

    Today's entry sparked many memories; here are three...

    * In the early 1990s, I enjoyed breakfast at the Liberty Cafe with a friend from UNC's School of Public Health. We ordered your basic eggs, toast, coffee and juice. The cook brought out our breakfast and we reminded him about the orange juice.

    He said, "Oh yea," dug deep down into his pockets, pulled out two small cans of Donald Duck orange juice and placed them on the table.

    The look on my friend's face was unforgettable. :)

    * The smell of tobacco downtown was present well into the 90s. It was especially prevalent in the L&M/Brightleaf area. The moment I fell in love with Durham came after a day of house-hunting, with a cold draft of summer ale at the Weeping Radish patio -- looking at the evening sun on the brick buildings and taking in the aroma of tobacco.

    * I went on a tour of the Phillip Morris cigarette factory outside of Richmond in the nineties. They loaded us onto golf carts and drove us around the factory floor. I noticed that all the safety signs were pointed at us -- not the employees. Also, the back of each chair in the little movie theater had an ashtray. The chairs at Duke Homestead's theater also had individual ashtrays on the back (not sure if the same chairs are there today).

    Here are some more pics of Durham's tobacco history... http://www.owdna.org/History/history25.htm

  • Submitted by Gary on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 - 3:58pm

    Good stuff, John. Just to clarify, since I think this is a bit confusing, this is not the current, still-extant Liberty warehouse, but the original. So the cafe that you and your friend ate at would be at the present Liberty Warehouse, coming up on Friday.

    When I came back to Durham in the late 1990s, one could still smell the tobacco on certain mornings. As much as I abhor cigarette smoke, the sweet, earthy smell of curing tobacco was, to me, a beautiful and unique aroma.

    GK

  • Submitted by John Schelp on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 - 5:23pm

    Thanks for clearing that up, Gary. The cafe we visited was on Rigsbee. One of the co-owners was a colleague's brother. He also operated a fruit and vegetable wholesale outfit next door (ie. the corner space in Liberty).

    Look forward to learning more about the Liberty warehouse(s) on Friday.

  • Submitted by Nil Zed on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 - 9:25pm

    I don't know if it helps the center much, but I appreciate that there is a bus stop in front of the senior center!

  • Submitted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 4:55am

    As a Duke student in the mid '60's I found the tobacco smell sweet, cloying and a bit nauseating. And I was a smoker back then! But I can recall that smell to this day.

  • Submitted by Gerald on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 6:15pm

    There used to be a tiny brick building with a triangular footprint at 118 W. Seminary. It was torn down when the senior center was constructed. Anyone know the story on that property? The building looks like it would have touched the Star #2 warehouse, but it doesn't show in any of your pictures.

    The Durham GIS says it belongs to "Haskell Properties." They appear to own a bunch of vacant lots and falling-down buildings.

  • Submitted by John Martin on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 10:49am

    I'm not on Facebook, so I can't join the discussion there.  Phil Azar, however, made an interesting point.  He said that Preservation Durham should research the work done by the architectural firm that is designing the building that will sit on the carcass of the Liberty Warehouse.  You don't have to wait for PD.  Everything you need to know is available on the architect's website:  ktgy Architecture + Planning.  (I think you can tell a lot about them from the cutesy way they've named themselves:  the lower case ktgy, the + sign instead of an "and" or an ampersand.)  Anyway you can find their "portfolio" of mixed-use projects from their website:

    (I would put a link here, but Open Durham doesn't allow links in comments because of spammers.  But it's not hard to find.  Google ktgy Architecture + Planning and go to "portfolio" and then "mixed use."

    Am I the only one who thinks that all this shit looks basically the same?  Of course, some buildings are bigger than others, some are taller, some have different colors, but it's all just the architectural equivalent of elevator music.  When I see something like this, trying to make things appear different when they aren't, I'm reminded of the time, decades ago, when I went shopping for an electric blanket at Roses.  I found two that were made by the same company, and appeared to be identical in terms of size, wattage, etc.  One, however, was priced $10 higher.  A saleslady happened to come by, and I asked her what the difference was.  Without missing a beat, she pointed to the higher priced one and said, "it's more dee-lux."   

    So, yeah, we're getting something different from what "ktgy Architecture + Planning" designed for Denver or Shady Grove.  Ours is more dee-lux.  Or maybe less, it's hard to tell. . .

  • Submitted by raven on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 6:00pm

    Walker Stone dad used to work at Liberty Warehouse 1

  • Submitted by Fooflekins on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 - 1:40pm

    I'm doing research for this building do you know why it was demolished?

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  • Thu, 01/16/2014 - 5:00pm by gary

Location

35° 59' 57.8796" N, 78° 53' 57.1236" W

Comments

400-408
,
Durham
NC
Cross street: 
Built in
1930-1935
/ Demolished in
1999
Construction type: 
,
Neighborhood: 
Type: 

 


Looking east from Rigsbee Ave. and Seminary St., 1940
(Courtesy Library of Congress)

The original Liberty Warehouse was located at the northeast corner of Rigsbee Avenue and Seminary St. The warehouse was constructed in the early 1930s, and operated by Satterfield and Stone.


Looking north up Rigsbee Ave. from Seminary St., 1940. The Roycroft warehouse is on the left.
(Courtesy Library of Congress)

The original Liberty Cafe was part of this warehouse as well, opening out onto Rigsbee Ave.


Liberty Cafe, 1940.
(Courtesy Library of Congress)


Liberty Cafe, 1940.
(Courtesy Library of Congress)


Looking north on Rigsbee Ave. from near Morgan - the Liberty Warehouse is to the right.
(Courtesy the Herald-Sun)


Tobacco Warehouse Interior Shot (don't know for certain that this was the Liberty.)

After construction of the newer Liberty Warehouse at Corporation St. and Rigsbee Ave., the former Liberty became part of the expansion of the Currin and Cozart Star Warehouse. The original Star Brick Warehouse was located in the block immediately to the south.


Warehouses, 1959.
(Courtesy Durham County Library / North Carolina Collection)

Originally the No. 2 warehouse, by the 1960s, this building had become the No. 1 and No. 2 warehouses.


Looking northeast, 07.04.64.
(Courtesy The Herald-Sun Newspaper)

Although it appears that the warehouse was defunct by the 1970s, the building was still in existence in 1987.


Looking north-northeast, 1986.
(Courtesy Durham County Library / North Carolina Collection)

(Photo by George Pyne, courtesy Milo Pyne)


Looking west down Seminary St., 1987 - the Star warehouse is on the right.
(Courtesy Durham County Library / North Carolina Collection)

This next-to-last tobacco auction warehouse was torn down in 1999. Utilizing 2001 bond funding, the county constructed a $5.5 million "Center for Senior Life" on the former site of the warehouse, which opened in 2006.


Looking northeast, 06.07.08

Soon after it opened, people decried its low utilization. Part of this may have been attributable to difficulty completing construction of areas such as the center kitchen. I've heard little about the center since then; from outward appearances, I see little activity. The architecture of the center is adequate - although it's set way too far back from the street in my opinion, with a large lawn of questionable utility in front. At the very least, they avoided the seemingly insatiable urge to stick parking in front of the building, and it is oriented towards the street.
 

Comments

I think the building looks well situated on the lot, but I agree that a senior center has little use for a large front yard. And said that it appears to be underutilized.

or sad!

I remember during the late 60's-early 70's that workers in the downtown area would rent monthly parking inside the warehouses. It was always a bit scary as a child to be in a car that was being parked there; the old wood floors creaked and moaned as the cars would slowly roll across. Of course, no parking for a month during auctions!

What the pictures don't show, and I doubt can ever be recreated, is the SMELL that permeated downtown Durham during auction. It was definitely a love it!/hate it! experience -- some folks thought it was like perfume, and others found it nauseating. I'm pretty sure that, had I been a student at Durham High School during that time, I'd have been in the bathroom tossing my lunch on a daily basis during auction.

In the early 60's, while in elementary school, our entire grade went on a field trip to Liggett & Myers to see how the cigarettes were made. At the end of the tour, each of us was given a carton of L&M cigarettes to "take home to your parents." Can you imagine? They handed out cartons (carton = 10 packs) to all of these 9- and 10-year-olds.

Yes, Lynn, the smell of all that tobacco was really something.

I grew up in Winston and my mom, then a heavy smoker, loved the smell and I, a child, found it sickening.

During my brief foray into cigarette addiction in my early-mid 20s, I suppose I grew to like the smell a bit more, but am glad as can be that I kicked that nasty habit.

Still, is there a museum of smell anywhere? The aroma/stench of a "healthy" tobacco industry is a hard one to "get" if one has never been subjected to it.

Today's entry sparked many memories; here are three...

* In the early 1990s, I enjoyed breakfast at the Liberty Cafe with a friend from UNC's School of Public Health. We ordered your basic eggs, toast, coffee and juice. The cook brought out our breakfast and we reminded him about the orange juice.

He said, "Oh yea," dug deep down into his pockets, pulled out two small cans of Donald Duck orange juice and placed them on the table.

The look on my friend's face was unforgettable. :)

* The smell of tobacco downtown was present well into the 90s. It was especially prevalent in the L&M/Brightleaf area. The moment I fell in love with Durham came after a day of house-hunting, with a cold draft of summer ale at the Weeping Radish patio -- looking at the evening sun on the brick buildings and taking in the aroma of tobacco.

* I went on a tour of the Phillip Morris cigarette factory outside of Richmond in the nineties. They loaded us onto golf carts and drove us around the factory floor. I noticed that all the safety signs were pointed at us -- not the employees. Also, the back of each chair in the little movie theater had an ashtray. The chairs at Duke Homestead's theater also had individual ashtrays on the back (not sure if the same chairs are there today).

Here are some more pics of Durham's tobacco history... http://www.owdna.org/History/history25.htm

Good stuff, John. Just to clarify, since I think this is a bit confusing, this is not the current, still-extant Liberty warehouse, but the original. So the cafe that you and your friend ate at would be at the present Liberty Warehouse, coming up on Friday.

When I came back to Durham in the late 1990s, one could still smell the tobacco on certain mornings. As much as I abhor cigarette smoke, the sweet, earthy smell of curing tobacco was, to me, a beautiful and unique aroma.

GK

Thanks for clearing that up, Gary. The cafe we visited was on Rigsbee. One of the co-owners was a colleague's brother. He also operated a fruit and vegetable wholesale outfit next door (ie. the corner space in Liberty).

Look forward to learning more about the Liberty warehouse(s) on Friday.

I don't know if it helps the center much, but I appreciate that there is a bus stop in front of the senior center!

As a Duke student in the mid '60's I found the tobacco smell sweet, cloying and a bit nauseating. And I was a smoker back then! But I can recall that smell to this day.

There used to be a tiny brick building with a triangular footprint at 118 W. Seminary. It was torn down when the senior center was constructed. Anyone know the story on that property? The building looks like it would have touched the Star #2 warehouse, but it doesn't show in any of your pictures.

The Durham GIS says it belongs to "Haskell Properties." They appear to own a bunch of vacant lots and falling-down buildings.

I'm not on Facebook, so I can't join the discussion there.  Phil Azar, however, made an interesting point.  He said that Preservation Durham should research the work done by the architectural firm that is designing the building that will sit on the carcass of the Liberty Warehouse.  You don't have to wait for PD.  Everything you need to know is available on the architect's website:  ktgy Architecture + Planning.  (I think you can tell a lot about them from the cutesy way they've named themselves:  the lower case ktgy, the + sign instead of an "and" or an ampersand.)  Anyway you can find their "portfolio" of mixed-use projects from their website:

(I would put a link here, but Open Durham doesn't allow links in comments because of spammers.  But it's not hard to find.  Google ktgy Architecture + Planning and go to "portfolio" and then "mixed use."

Am I the only one who thinks that all this shit looks basically the same?  Of course, some buildings are bigger than others, some are taller, some have different colors, but it's all just the architectural equivalent of elevator music.  When I see something like this, trying to make things appear different when they aren't, I'm reminded of the time, decades ago, when I went shopping for an electric blanket at Roses.  I found two that were made by the same company, and appeared to be identical in terms of size, wattage, etc.  One, however, was priced $10 higher.  A saleslady happened to come by, and I asked her what the difference was.  Without missing a beat, she pointed to the higher priced one and said, "it's more dee-lux."   

So, yeah, we're getting something different from what "ktgy Architecture + Planning" designed for Denver or Shady Grove.  Ours is more dee-lux.  Or maybe less, it's hard to tell. . .

Walker Stone dad used to work at Liberty Warehouse 1

I'm doing research for this building do you know why it was demolished?

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